Is KFC in trouble?

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4 KFC's just closed down in my area. Ones that were in smaller town/cities or maybe not the most popular shopping areas.

The main ones in Battle Creek & Kalamazoo are still open...for now.

If they close, then where would I get finger lickin' chicken, or Sweet Lightning Mountain Dew?
 
I’ve not read anything. Given how large Yum! Brand’s franchise territories tend to be, all these locations might be owned by one franchisee group who might be closing because they suck at chicken or can’t get help or are squabbling with landlords or are in default to the franchisor or are temporarily closing to execute a required refresh/remodel.
 
It might be due to worker shortages. We lost a Taco Bell/KFC in Boulder because they couldn’t get workers for $16.50 per hour (McDonalds was paying $19). But it’s not a terrible loss; the workers they did have were idiots who always left items out of the bag at the drive thru.
 
4 KFC's just closed down in my area. Ones that were in smaller town/cities or maybe not the most popular shopping areas.

The main ones in Battle Creek & Kalamazoo are still open...for now.

If they close, then where would I get finger lickin' chicken, or Sweet Lightning Mountain Dew?

It was only a matter of time. I'm all for not cooking one night, picking up a bucket of chicken, "as long as it's one of the KFCs that fully cooks their chicken", mashed potatoes and gravy and cole slaw and eating it at home. Their problem is no lunch crowd. They only serve Pepsi products. It's just not sustainable. I don't know about everybody else but, my wife allows me one soda a day so, it better be a Coke.
 
they just completely rebuilt the one near me. whole new building, parking & site work. they've spent most of the summer doing it, so i don't think they're closing this one any time soon.
maybe it's a regional thing.
 
We used to have kfc all over the place in Tucson and around 2017 they all started disappearing to the point I believe we only had 2. We now have more but not as many as there used to be. About the same time as here there also used to be one in the Tiny town of Wilcox, AZ near the NM border and that one closed too.
 
Wow, probably been 5 years since I ate KFC. McDonalds too.

We had a local place called the Dairy Freeze. Owned by the same man probably since I could walk. He recently sold it off and shut it down just before covid. Small town that never let any outside fast food places in. A town over, same size, has McDonald's and Hardee’s, another town over McDonald’s KFC and others. Their chicken was better than KFC for 40 years. Place was always busy. A Mexican restaurant was going to move in and it never did. Looks the same now just deserted.
 
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4 KFC's just closed down in my area. Ones that were in smaller town/cities or maybe not the most popular shopping areas.

The main ones in Battle Creek & Kalamazoo are still open...for now.

If they close, then where would I get finger lickin' chicken, or Sweet Lightning Mountain Dew?


Several of the fast food chains have been struggling post-pandemic to have enough workers. Some restaurants in our area have limited or no dine-in, basically drive through or online order pickup only.

I read an article about an experimental drive through restaurant with FOUR drive through lanes like a bank... but no dining room. The kitchen is on the second floor above the drive through area, and orders are lowered to the driver's window with a little dumb-waiter style elevator. The outside lane is reserved for online orders only.

It's a pretty great idea, especially since KFC, Taco Bell, and Pizza Hut are owned by the same people... if you could go to ONE drive through and order items from all three restaurants, that would be awesome.
 
All the fast food restaurant chains are hurting a bit right now. People are not eating out quite as much and workers will to work hard for what they are paying (which is not bad for part time work) are hard to come by.
 
It might be due to worker shortages. We lost a Taco Bell/KFC in Boulder because they couldn’t get workers for $16.50 per hour (McDonalds was paying $19). But it’s not a terrible loss; the workers they did have were idiots who always left items out of the bag at the drive thru.
This is what puts me in rage mode. I totally get that people need and deserve a living wage but when you can't even get a basic order right, come on.
We stopped through a McDonald's to get my daughter a McGriddle while on vacation. In my mind a McGriddle is a sausage patty between two tiny pancakes. We got one tiny pancake because I told them no egg, no cheese.
No sausage, no second pancake. I am convinced that the hiring process is an IQ test and when you score below 100 you are immediately hired. I know people who have made their careers in fast food. It is unacceptable to demand higher wages and still not give a shit what goes out of the restaurant.
 
's a pretty great idea, especially since KFC, Taco Bell, and Pizza Hut are owned by the same people... if you could go to ONE drive through and order items from all three restaurants, that would be awesome.
Those are such things, although I've only ever encountered pizza hut/taco bells personally. (The triple combos do exist though, or at least used to)

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KFC is disgusting. Actually, I'm off all fast food, I think something might have finally clicked and I realize how bad it all is.
We'll still do pizza / carry out type stuff.
It sounds odd, but some gas stations have Saroki's Chicken / Pizza in them now, easily the best I've had. Just outstanding. First place I've ever been to where the food even looks like the pictures when you get it.
I'm in Michigan too, so maybe you'll have one up that way.
 
This is what puts me in rage mode. I totally get that people need and deserve a living wage but when you can't even get a basic order right, come on.
We stopped through a McDonald's to get my daughter a McGriddle while on vacation. In my mind a McGriddle is a sausage patty between two tiny pancakes. We got one tiny pancake because I told them no egg, no cheese.
No sausage, no second pancake. I am convinced that the hiring process is an IQ test and when you score below 100 you are immediately hired. I know people who have made their careers in fast food. It is unacceptable to demand higher wages and still not give a shit what goes out of the restaurant.

When you pay people less than a living wage, you get crappy employees. Pay a higher rate, and you’ll attract better employees and then your order is correct. Don’t get me wrong, it really grinds my gears when an order is messed up (I once threw a burger at the restaurant window, where it stuck, because they totally screwed it up and I was in a giant hurry) but there are a few fast food joints near me, that advertise $20 per hour and their employees are much more on the ball than the rest.
 
When you pay people less than a living wage, you get crappy employees. Pay a higher rate, and you’ll attract better employees and then your order is correct. Don’t get me wrong, it really grinds my gears when an order is messed up (I once threw a burger at the restaurant window, where it stuck, because they totally screwed it up and I was in a giant hurry) but there are a few fast food joints near me, that advertise $20 per hour and their employees are much more on the ball than the rest.
This and the fact that kids these days think they have a constitutional right to become social media stars.
 
This and the fact that kids these days think they have a constitutional right to become social media stars.

Ironically, the kids that are utilizing current tools to facilitate some kind of wealth for themselves are actually closer to the "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" mentality that Regan-worshiping conservatives have been bleating on about for the past 40+ years.

The harsh reality though is wages across the board, from minimum wage to blue collar, to white collar... have basically stagnated, except for CEO level wages which have rose exponentially over the same period of time.

One used to be able to go out into the workforce with an associates or trade degree and still be able to afford an apartment or a modest home. Then the cost of homes, rent, automobiles, fuel, food and especially college tuition... have risen many times faster than any of the paychecks above, while CEO are buying multiple homes, boats, sportscars, and creating a huge wealth gap.

GM made a profit last year of 22.34 Billion dollars but only employ 167,000 people. In an equitable system, a $10,000 bonus could be paid to every single line worker, janitor, receptionist, or paper pusher and the company could still report a profit of 20.67 Billion dollars, but instead the money is kept at the top and the C-level employees get paid millions, shareholders are clinking champagne glasses, but the people breaking their bodies on the assembly line, pushing paperwork, or mop the floors are working paycheck to paycheck.
 
Several of the fast food chains have been struggling post-pandemic to have enough workers. Some restaurants in our area have limited or no dine-in, basically drive through or online order pickup only.

I read an article about an experimental drive through restaurant with FOUR drive through lanes like a bank... but no dining room. The kitchen is on the second floor above the drive through area, and orders are lowered to the driver's window with a little dumb-waiter style elevator. The outside lane is reserved for online orders only.

It's a pretty great idea, especially since KFC, Taco Bell, and Pizza Hut are owned by the same people... if you could go to ONE drive through and order items from all three restaurants, that would be awesome.

we have a store here that IS a combo of KFC & Taco Bell.
 
When you pay people less than a living wage, you get crappy employees. Pay a higher rate, and you’ll attract better employees and then your order is correct. Don’t get me wrong, it really grinds my gears when an order is messed up (I once threw a burger at the restaurant window, where it stuck, because they totally screwed it up and I was in a giant hurry) but there are a few fast food joints near me, that advertise $20 per hour and their employees are much more on the ball than the rest.


If you pay peanuts, you'll hire monkeys.
 
we have a store here that IS a combo of KFC & Taco Bell.

When I worked downtown, there was a Taco Bell / Pizza Hut... I think they only did the personal pan pizzas and the breadsticks, but it was great at lunchtime.

I think the 3 or 4 in one with multiple drive throughs is a great idea. It's better for the ingredient shipments being able to make less stops, and eliminating the dining room and all that extra parking could help whittle away at this concrete landscape that most of our suburbs have become.
 
When you pay people less than a living wage, you get crappy employees. Pay a higher rate, and you’ll attract better employees and then your order is correct. Don’t get me wrong, it really grinds my gears when an order is messed up (I once threw a burger at the restaurant window, where it stuck, because they totally screwed it up and I was in a giant hurry) but there are a few fast food joints near me, that advertise $20 per hour and their employees are much more on the ball than the rest.
While I agree with this, the sign on the window at this McDonald's said "Starting at up to $20". The other issue is that you still get the people applying for that $20 an hour but they don't have the experience so they end up at $12 to $14 anyway.
 
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