2/13/1970: The Birthday of Heavy Metal!!!!

Tralfaz said:
Are we just gonna pretend Blue Cheer didn't happen?


Anyhow I was too young in 1970 to be drawn in by metal. I remember my older brother had "Paranoid" and the album scared the bejesus out of me. Also, the band had clearly never read a single issue of Iron Man and was just making shit up.
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Not So Hot Take: Helter Skelter is more 'metal' than Blue Cheer. Both released the same year too.
 
rickenvox said:
They certainly didn’t call Sabbath metal in the early seventies. Hard rock was the term. The term heavy metal was lifted from Born to be Wild by Steppenwolf (yes, and some other sources including science blah, blah, blah). The term was thrown around a lot but wasn’t used to define a genre until the last half of the 70s. Before that the term was thrown at all kinds of bands that no one would consider metal today and was mostly used as a put down by journalists like Lester Bangs.

Same with punk rock. I remember reading Creem magazine with articles calling Alice Cooper and Aerosmith punk rock. It was also a put down meaning some young “punks” making sloppy rock music.


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Regardless of what people labeled Black Sabbath in the 70's, I absolutely consider them pioneers of heavy metal. Like Flamencology mentioned in another post, they were folk, jazz, and a few other genres too.
 
No one said it was called heavy metal then. Only that it was born. Relax man, smoke joint or something.

rickenvox said:
They certainly didn’t call Sabbath metal in the early seventies. Hard rock was the term. The term heavy metal was lifted from Born to be Wild by Steppenwolf (yes, and some other sources including science blah, blah, blah). The term was thrown around a lot but wasn’t used to define a genre until the last half of the 70s. Before that the term was thrown at all kinds of bands that no one would consider metal today and was mostly used as a put down by journalists like Lester Bangs.

Same with punk rock. I remember reading Creem magazine with articles calling Alice Cooper and Aerosmith punk rock. It was also a put down meaning some young “punks” making sloppy rock music.


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smorgdonkey said:
Record from same era...full "80s sound" for sure (with all of the reverb on the snare and toms) but the guitar solo - one of the best. It's got a little of many different techniques tastefully put together. Mr Schenker is amazing.

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I've seen Michael 7 times. Once with UFO. He's always great. He's a living legend to me.

 
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Andrew Sak said:
Regardless of what people labeled Black Sabbath in the 70's, I absolutely consider them pioneers of heavy metal. Like Flamencology mentioned in another post, they were folk, jazz, and a few other genres too.
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I think metal generally ended up sounding more like Deep Purple (and by extension Rainbow) than Sabbath. Especially with metal’s affinity for speed, as opposed to Sabbath’s slow songs. But tone wise yes. Sabbath was also a big influence on grunge. Soundgarden sounded more like Sabbath than most metal bands.


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rickenvox said:
I think metal generally ended up sounding more like Deep Purple (and by extension Rainbow) than Sabbath. Especially with metal’s affinity for speed, as opposed to Sabbath’s slow songs. But tone wise yes. Sabbath was also a big influence on grunge. Soundgarden sounded more like Sabbath than most metal bands.


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I'm going to tap out at "Black Sabbath influenced grunge".
 
rickenvox said:
I think metal generally ended up sounding more like Deep Purple (and by extension Rainbow) than Sabbath. Especially with metal’s affinity for speed, as opposed to Sabbath’s slow songs. But tone wise yes. Sabbath was also a big influence on grunge. Soundgarden sounded more like Sabbath than most metal bands.


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And while Soundgarden cribbed from Sabbath they were way more influenced by Zep. They re-wrote No Quarter about 20 times, at least.

Now...Alice In Chains is a different story. But they’re a Metal band, not grunge.
 
Andrew Sak said:
I'm going to tap out at "Black Sabbath influenced grunge".
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Yeah, not an original thought there. It was stated by the critics at the time. They were mostly talking about Soundgarden and Alice in Chains. As mentioned above, Alice in Chains was originally a metal band.
 
rickenvox said:
Yeah, not an original thought there. It was stated by the critics at the time. They were mostly talking about Soundgarden and Alice in Chains. As mentioned above, Alice in Chains was originally a metal band.
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Those must be the same heavy metal critics that work at the Grammys.

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dmn23 said:
ÜBER BÖÖMER
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Sorry guys, I had a few beers when I posted that, & kinda went off on a tangent...shit:cry:

Honestly, Black Sabbath was my very first guitar influence. The very first song I ever learned was Electric Funeral.
 
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