Looking for a new delay

Over the years I have been gifted with a Caverns. Does Delay and Reverb well.
 
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xStonr said:
Over the years I have been gifted with a Hall of Fame and a Caverns. Both do the job well.
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Hall of Fame is a reverb pedal no? Might get the OP what he needs though if he's looking for a more ambient thing.

I got a Wampler Ethereal for Christmas, sounds great, does delay and reverb and is very simple to use.
 
rhino said:
watching videos... I think you may be right. It sounds awesome but it’s intimidating for me. I love the idea of being able to do all that wacky stuff, but it’d be like learning a whole new instrument. I don’t know that I should justify the expense for something that may or may not get utilized.
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Yes it's worth the money. Yes it's worth the effort. It really is that good. Forget the wacky stuff. Just how good it sounds is worth it.
 
I have watched way too many demos of delay pedals today.

The good news is the wife and I had a gig for NYE that payed really well. They weren’t doing the typical dance party thing because of Covid and no singing either. We did 3 instrumental sets at an hour and half a piece. She had her marimba. I brought the stage piano and an acoustic guitar. The little loop pedal I got for Christmas made it a lot of fun.

The moral of this story is bills are paid, I got some gig money, and a wife who has also heard bits and pieces of lots of demos today, and likes the idea of the El Capistrano because of how cool that would be to play marimba over. Probably pull the trigger on it in the morning.

Thanks all for weighing in.

Ps: @Help!I'maRock! Did a good job of talking me out of it, but then talked me into it at the same time.
 
rhino said:
I have watched way too many demos of delay pedals today.

The good news is the wife and I had a gig for NYE that payed really well. They weren’t doing the typical dance party thing because of Covid and no singing either. We did 3 instrumental sets at an hour and half a piece. She had her marimba. I brought the stage piano and an acoustic guitar. The little loop pedal I got for Christmas made it a lot of fun.

The moral of this story is bills are paid, I got some gig money, and a wife who has also heard bits and pieces of lots of demos today, and likes the idea of the El Capistrano because of how cool that would be to play marimba over. Probably pull the trigger on it in the morning.

Thanks all for weighing in.

Ps: @Help!I'maRock! Did a good job of talking me out of it, but then talked me into it at the same time.
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Wife likes it, go for it.

My thing is just don't buy stuff to buy stuff. We all do it. I certainly do it. But don't spend $300 just because some forum dudes say to either.
 
Help!I'maRock! said:
Wife likes it, go for it.

My thing is just don't buy stuff to buy stuff. We all do it. I certainly do it. But don't spend $300 just because some forum dudes say to either.
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That’s good advice.

I’m actually pretty good at not doing that. Other than people letting me borrow stuff, I’ve only ever bought and sold 2 pedals and that was almost 20 years ago. (Geez I’m old)

Most of the folks I’ve known that got into buying and selling gear and chasing the toanz seemed to spend more time shopping and twisting knobs than actually playing their instrument.

In the light of day, the wife still thinks it’s a good idea. Ordering now :jam:

When it comes in, I’ll probably be looking for advice on redoing the pedal board from you jokers. Speaking of which, @Mark Wein didnt you say you were going to post a video on setting up a pedal board? Did you already do that?
 
rhino said:
That’s good advice.

I’m actually pretty good at not doing that. Other than people letting me borrow stuff, I’ve only ever bought and sold 2 pedals and that was almost 20 years ago. (Geez I’m old)

Most of the folks I’ve known that got into buying and selling gear and chasing the toanz seemed to spend more time shopping and twisting knobs than actually playing their instrument.

In the light of day, the wife still thinks it’s a good idea. Ordering now :jam:

When it comes in, I’ll probably be looking for advice on redoing the pedal board from you jokers. Speaking of which, @Mark Wein didnt you say you were going to post a video on setting up a pedal board? Did you already do that?
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My advice is only build the board you need. You don't need to be well rounded or buy things "just in case". Dragging Pedalstar Galactica to the gig and only using 3 pedals sucks. Once you figure out what you're going to use, get a board and power supply that support it.
 
rhino said:
That’s good advice.

I’m actually pretty good at not doing that. Other than people letting me borrow stuff, I’ve only ever bought and sold 2 pedals and that was almost 20 years ago. (Geez I’m old)

Most of the folks I’ve known that got into buying and selling gear and chasing the toanz seemed to spend more time shopping and twisting knobs than actually playing their instrument.

In the light of day, the wife still thinks it’s a good idea. Ordering now :jam:

When it comes in, I’ll probably be looking for advice on redoing the pedal board from you jokers. Speaking of which, @Mark Wein didnt you say you were going to post a video on setting up a pedal board? Did you already do that?
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Help!I'maRock! said:
My advice is only build the board you need. You don't need to be well rounded or buy things "just in case". Dragging Pedalstar Galactica to the gig and only using 3 pedals sucks. Once you figure out what you're going to use, get a board and power supply that support it.
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What howie says.

I would still invest in a decent power supply, though. I have a small CIOKS Adam for my little board that powers the El Cap, my tuner and up to 3 other pedals.
 
Mark Wein said:
What howie says.

I would still invest in a decent power supply, though. I have a small CIOKS Adam for my little board that powers the El Cap, my tuner and up to 3 other pedals.
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I have a pedal train jr with a voodoo 2. Does that work?
 
rhino said:
I have a pedal train jr with a voodoo 2. Does that work?
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Voodoo Labs pedal Power 2 +? If it's a PP+ yes. If it's the original PP no, you would have to plug the ElCap's wallwart into the PP's courtesy outlet.


https://www.strymon.net/faq/can-i-use-a-voodoo-labs-pedal-power-2/

All pedals (except TimeLine, Mobius, and BigSky):
You can, but please take these precautions:

First, make sure the dip switches on the bottom of your Pedal Power are set to the NORMAL (9V) position. Do not subject your Strymon pedal to any voltage above 9V as doing so will damage your pedal and void your warranty.

Brigadier, blueSky, Deco, DIG, El Capistan, Flint, Lex, Ola, and Orbit all require a minimum of 250mA of current. You will need to use output 5 or 6 on your Pedal Power 2+ with the standard black power cables.

OB.1 only requires 20mA, so you can use outlets 1 through 4. Make sure to use the Pedal Power 2+, the original Pedal Power 2 does not provide enough current (mA).

A better solution would be to use our Strymon Ojai high current power supply which offers five (5) high current 9V DC outputs which can each power any of our pedals.

What other pedals are you using?
 
Bob411 said:
Voodoo Labs pedal Power 2 +? If it's a PP+ yes. If it's the original PP no, you would have to plug the ElCap's wallwart into the PP's courtesy outlet.


https://www.strymon.net/faq/can-i-use-a-voodoo-labs-pedal-power-2/

All pedals (except TimeLine, Mobius, and BigSky):
You can, but please take these precautions:

First, make sure the dip switches on the bottom of your Pedal Power are set to the NORMAL (9V) position. Do not subject your Strymon pedal to any voltage above 9V as doing so will damage your pedal and void your warranty.

Brigadier, blueSky, Deco, DIG, El Capistan, Flint, Lex, Ola, and Orbit all require a minimum of 250mA of current. You will need to use output 5 or 6 on your Pedal Power 2+ with the standard black power cables.

OB.1 only requires 20mA, so you can use outlets 1 through 4. Make sure to use the Pedal Power 2+, the original Pedal Power 2 does not provide enough current (mA).

A better solution would be to use our Strymon Ojai high current power supply which offers five (5) high current 9V DC outputs which can each power any of our pedals.

What other pedals are you using?
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still in the process of sorting that out, but the options are

Boss tu2
Jackson Audio Bloom
Electro Harmonic Nano grail
Full tone fat boost (apparently the guys a tool this may get replaced or cut. The bloom has a nice boost function)
TC ditto

it would also be great to have volume pedal, but that takes a lot of real estate.

if I can make it work LR baggs para. Not for this signal chain but to not have to carry it around separately. I use it for keyboard, acoustic, or resonator.

I also have a modded CS 9 that does a rotary thing. It’s fun.
 
If you're looking for a TC Ditto cheap, PM me.

I don't use mine anymore. Not having a dedicated stop switch is problematic.
 
Chad said:
My top 3 are the EQD Dispatch Master, Strymon El Cap and the Catalinbread Echorec.
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Probably my top 3 as well.

the search for the perfect delay has been the most frustrating part of guitar for me, aside from not knowing how to play. I’ve tried dozens. Certainly most of them. I think my problem is that I expect it to make me sound like the guys in the demos, who are professional musicians.

So now, I use two super basic delays in conjunction. The right side of the Strymon deco (one knob) and the mojo park theatre (one knob). This keeps it super simple, and together they do the ping-y thing.
 
Guitar Heel said:
Probably my top 3 as well.

the search for the perfect delay has been the most frustrating part of guitar for me, aside from not knowing how to play. I’ve tried dozens. Certainly most of them. I think my problem is that I expect it to make me sound like the guys in the demos, who are professional musicians.

So now, I use two super basic delays in conjunction. The right side of the Strymon deco (one knob) and the mojo park theatre (one knob). This keeps it super simple, and together they do the ping-y thing.
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I feel that. That kind of gets into what Howie was referencing earlier in this thread.

There is a whole industry built around selling “tones” to guitar players that won’t be able to get them because they don’t have it in the fingers, which is something that can’t be bought.

This is not meant to be a dig on you at all. I ran into the same thing when I got the bloom. A buddy of mine sent me a link to demo video with 3 players who could really play. I watched it for months before I finally bought one. And then I didn’t sound like the guys in the video at all. Started putting in the work. It’s getting there, but still got a ways to go.
 
Guitar Heel said:
Probably my top 3 as well.

the search for the perfect delay has been the most frustrating part of guitar for me, aside from not knowing how to play. I’ve tried dozens. Certainly most of them. I think my problem is that I expect it to make me sound like the guys in the demos, who are professional musicians.

So now, I use two super basic delays in conjunction. The right side of the Strymon deco (one knob) and the mojo park theatre (one knob). This keeps it super simple, and together they do the ping-y thing.
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I bought the Catalinbread Echorec when I started looking for a delay with more usable time than my Jaques Prisoner, which only has 300ms and doesn't oscillate. When I bought the Prisoner, those were strengths. I bought the Echorec as a cool sounding delay that kinda did everything else. I had no idea it would become foundational to my sound and would completely take over.

The interesting thing about that pedal how polarizing it is. Nobody who wants to "keep their tone, just with delay" should ever use this pedal. Instead, it should be bought knowing the buffer/preamp will change your tone in a very nice way, and that will become your new base tone. That it comes with a multi-tap delay that can self oscillate at higher settings might just be a bonus.
 
Help!I'maRock! said:
I bought the Catalinbread Echorec when I started looking for a delay with more usable time than my Jaques Prisoner, which only has 300ms and doesn't oscillate. When I bought the Prisoner, those were strengths. I bought the Echorec as a cool sounding delay that kinda did everything else. I had no idea it would become foundational to my sound and would completely take over.

The interesting thing about that pedal how polarizing it is. Nobody who wants to "keep their tone, just with delay" should ever use this pedal. Instead, it should be bought knowing the buffer/preamp will change your tone in a very nice way, and that will become your new base tone. That it comes with a multi-tap delay that can self oscillate at higher settings might just be a bonus.
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My favorite part of the pedal is the tone knob. I wish every delay had one. It’s the delay that’s on my big board. My next purchase will likely be the El Cap.
 
I still like my carbon copy, and am using it for slap back and ambience, and in fact using reverb less often as a result. But I am but a noob with too many pedals, still learning to use them. I have more delays in my M9 that have tap tempo function as I finally learn how to use that feature. So, will be interested in how you and your wife like your new delay, and how you end up using it.

My quest this year with effects is to “just try stuff” and figure out how to use stuff I have, and see what I can get rid of to pare down my Pedalboard Galactica. And also to figure out what effects work better with my two amps. and then ultimately sell some stuff. But I am not super good at selling stuff.

I like @Guitar Heel ’s little shelves he has with extra effects, kinda like the JHS pedal guys have. But, not sure I want to go down THAT road.

So, for now, my goal is to just to learn to use the stuff I have well, and not buy anything.
 
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