the "I don't get it" thread

Mark Wein said:
You know what I don't get? Why folks are so comfortable being ignorant. It's like the new national pastime in the U.S.
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New national pastime?

“There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”
― Isaac Asimov

I believe it was the mid-80s when he said that.
 
smurfco said:
Again it may be my own ignorance but I never get surprised by anything in the blues, even if it's enjoyable to listen to. But there are people who are "huge blues fans", I guess that's what I don't get, disciples of the blues etc. It all sounds so similar to me, I don't see how anyone can dig that deep into it (aside from the history of it) or really push boundaries with it. But maybe that's not what it's designed for.
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Try listening to some live Allmans or Tedeschi Trucks band when Derek Trucks is really on. He'll surprise you if you're capable of being surprised.
 
frunobulax said:
re-visited "Jack Johnson" today.

now this is a fusion record. could almost be contemporary.
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'Right Off' is sublime. Some of the best playing from both Miles and McLauglin in their entire careers.

But yeah, it's on a pretty simple funky vamp with some terrific bass.
 
Flamencology said:
He's an extraordinary player.

He's probably on my list of 'players who haven't achieved their full potential because they've been held back by their bandmates'.
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I wouldn't disagree with you, but man do I love to hear him cut loose in a band format on a familiar tune .... and then go somewhere unexpected. I think perhaps even he doesn't expect it.



Butch Trucks: "My nephew is just scary. I have played with a lot of really good guitar players. And with every one of them, I start figuring out what they are going to do ... even with Duane. There are certain patterns they play that lead to something else and you kind of get used to what they are going to do. After all the years of playing with Derek, I still don't have the faintest idea of what he is going to do. Every time he starts off his solo in 'In Memory of Elizabeth Reed', he comes from a different direction. He never does the same thing twice."
 
Flamencology said:
He's an extraordinary player.

He's probably on my list of 'players who haven't achieved their full potential because they've been held back by their bandmates'.
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I wouldn't say he was 'held back' in his work with the Allman Brothers. Oteil Burbridge is killer bassist, Warren Haynes is very talented, and the rhythm section was extraordinary.
 
frunobulax said:
I wouldn't say he was 'held back' in his work with the Allman Brothers. Oteil Burbridge is killer bassist, Warren Haynes is very talented, and the rhythm section was extraordinary.
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I would.

And I say that as a long-time fan of the Allmans, and have seen Trucks many times both with them and in his own bands.
 
Just to clarify I stated that there is no comfort in ignoarance except for me personally within music, if (!!) it means having no love for, time for, nor desire to embrace free jazz. (Seeing that I barely like regular jazz in the first place)

I'm about the only one here to have ever posted covers (52 between here and HC) embracing just about any genre that remotely intrigued me, to include rock(mostly), folk, punk, country, rap, alternative, pop and yes jazz (Of the lounge variety, which I did my own approximation of, but felt wasn't too bad, and Mark took a guest solo on).

So, before someone now sees me as a poster boy for the "culture of ignorance" based solely on this thread, take that into account. Im also open to trying anything before having an opinion, and learning at least a little about everything in life.
 
No, no assumptions given, other than that you've made assumptions.

Free jazz isn't as scary it sounds, really.

It's pure melody, really. (Which doesn't mean earwormy) Just think of it as a band trying to follow a singer without an outline or changes.


 
That's precisely what bugs me about it.

Let's just say I want my musical experience to be more structured I don't want to necessarily "have" to think to enjoy it. I feel if I want to experience people running around trying to follow someone out there doing his own thing without rhyme or reason, I would spend more time in political forums. :)

To each his own, and I was disrespectful of the genre first.
 
Thing I don't get...

How is having a man bun (and therefore being a hipster) different than simply putting your hair up?
 
Knox in Box said:
That's precisely what bugs me about it.

Let's just say I want my musical experience to be more structured I don't want to necessarily "have" to think to enjoy it. I feel if I want to experience people running around trying to follow someone out there doing his own thing without rhyme or reason, I would spend more time in political forums. :)

To each his own, and I was disrespectful of the genre first.
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Not having to think about music is a very slippery slope to Nickelback. Just sayin'.
 
Flamencology said:
I would.

And I say that as a long-time fan of the Allmans, and have seen Trucks many times both with them and in his own bands.
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The first I saw him was in June 2001 openning for Eric Johnson at the Birchmere. I was already a fan and owned several albums, but they were montrous. Javier Colon was singing and it was the Allmans meets Stevie Wonder meets Indian flavored jazz...absolutely killing. I love Derek and the Tedeschi Trucks Band (saw them at the Warner a couple years ago and they were stellar too), but he hasn't topped that night. He's definitely into a blues/r&b/rock-based groove which is great. Derek still pushes boundaries within those forms through his soloing, but the music is overall not as exploratory as it was in his youth.
 
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