Why do you think so many famous musicians have drug and alcohol problems?

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Kick Henry Jackassowski
I was listening to the Always Sunny podcast a few days ago and the guys touched on the subject with something that made a lot of sense. They were talking about Rob McElhennys Rexson soccer championship, or years ago when they did a live tour….having thousands of people cheering for you releases a huge rush of feel good chemicals in the brain. It’s real easy to get caught up in forever trying to chase that feeling through drugs.

They posited that staying grounded by taking your kids to school or folding your own laundry or whatever is a good way to combat that. Sure, some days you’re adored by huge crowds, but other days you’re picking up dogshit on the lawn. The brain needs those down times so that the good ones hit powerfully again. If you’re constantly surrounded by managers, fans, and whatnot telling you you’re awesome, then the things that are supposed to trigger the reward centers lose their impact. But drugs can still do it.

Of course heredity, trauma, mental health, etc all plays a huge role, but I’m talking specifically about musicians, and those are all present in the background population as well.

Discuss
 
probably a lot of reasons, many which you mentioned.
I'll add...

non steady hours which could lead to boredom
late nights and what's open late...bars and what is there or was there do to (pre post internet) other than get ripped in the early morning hours
due to the previous two above might need to take the edge off the day in order to sleep, so again booze and drugs
limitied time in places so not much to do....*see boredom*
some might look into "unlocking the subconscious for creativity"
it's a "right of passage" for the celebrity be it a musician, tv star, sports figure, etc
 
constantly playing in places where people go to get drunk and do drugs... how could you possibly develop a drinking or drug problem?!?!
 
This is a long excerpt from an old interview with Keith but it's interesting.


You used hard drugs for a long time. What are the good things that came out of it-for your music, if not for your health?

I can't really say if any good things come out of it for your music or anything else. Usually drug taking in music starts off on a very, very mundane level, just keeping going to make the next gig. It starts with popping a few white crosses just to be able to stand up after driving 500 miles across the desert. And once you've accepted that-it's the old bomber command mentality: "Put 'em in the goddamn B-29s with the Lancasters and send 'em over Germany and pop 'em a few amphetamines to keep 'em alert until they get back." It's the truck driver mentality: "Do you want me to crash this sucker or do you want me to stay awake?" And once you've got past that, the next question is an escalation. Drugs are fairly innocuous. But people think they can take them without knowing anything about them, without learning what it is they do to you. If you can make a conscious decision to take some kind of crap you better damn well know what it is it's doing to you. What to take to counteract it, what's safe about it, what isn't. I've had too many good buddies go down the tube, that's the terrible thing to me. Whether I'm still here or not is fairly irrelevant compared to the number of guys I've seen go down the tube because they just didn't know what it was they were taking. They were great guys. They weren't drug-crazed loonies. They just overdid it one night or somebody slipped 'em something.

And the most boring thing about it is the people that you have to hang around with in order to get stuff. It's such a waste of time to wait five hours for the man to come with sweating people going, "Oh man, Oh man!" It's a very narrow existence and I don't think you get much out of it for your music. 'Cause while you were sitting there waiting for five hours for the man you could've written five songs. I never took any of this shit in the belief that this was gonna make my music any better. I started taking stuff in order to be able to get to the gig and actually be in a conscious state to play and do the job that I was getting paid to do. This is when most musicians get into it. Those long hauls for a few bucks with a show at the end of a few hundred miles in the back of a cramped van. That's when you take that shit. "Yeah, man, I'm gonna fall asleep onstage if I don't take something right now."

I don't think you can say that drugs ever inspired or made anybody a better musician or a better writer because in a very short time I don't care what drug you're talkin' about-you're taking it just 'cause you need it. I mean the heavy stuff. If somebody's doing a bit of reefer, so what? But I've only found it interesting when listening to music, not for performing.

The perception people have is that some of the great music on Exile on Main Street and Sticky Fingers owed its creation to your drug use.

I don't think the drugs were an important factor in any of that. I may just as well have done "Brown Sugar" or "Honky Tonk Women" or "Tumbling Dice" straight. First off, I would straighten out to go on the road 'cause the last thing you want to do is be strung out on the road lookin' for the man. I'd always straighten up for tours. It's only the periods with nothing to do that got me into dope. It was more of an adrenaline imbalance. Three or four months on the road- everything's happening, and then it's the last gig, everybody disappears and suddenly you're sitting at home and your body's still waiting for the next show. It's a very hard readjustment. You have to be an athlete out there, the show must go on, etc. That's fine, you take it, but when it all stops suddenly, your body don't know there ain't a show the next night. That was always what put me back on. Something just to calm me down so that I could just sit at home with the kids and the old lady, or my buddies. It was really to do with not working. Now, that's just personal, I can't talk for anybody else, but that was the reason I found it almost impossible to do without it and kept going back for such a long time-that stop and start. It was the easiest way I could find to calm down and relax after a tour or four months in the studio. The body is saying, "Where's the adrenaline? Where am I gonna go? Leaping out in the street?"​
 
I think a lot of it is a combo of boredom and taking the edge off/needing a pick me up and being wired in a way that requires a high level of stimulation and/or having a low threshold for stillness before it becomes intolerable.

It’s like any risk-taking, self-abusive impulse. Those of us around here who are well beyond the “gonna make it” stage of delusion who still write and record and perform stuff at a financial loss—that’s likely a result of just being wired in a way where you crave stimulation or need a little thing to keep you busy. Drugs (alcohol, caffeine, other) provide a little shift in consciousness/experience that can take the edge off of the boredom without as much effort as say writing 5 songs for a last minute gig and riding the procrastination wave to mental equilibrium.

But Keef is right, all the time drugs/booze require you to spend with drugs/booze people can be a real drag.
 
It takes a lot longer to hit bottom when you have millions of dollars. Tony Iommi did coke every day for over twenty years before he finally ended up broke and in jail.
 
I remember am interview with David Crosby where he basically echoed what Keith said - drugs do not make you write better. In fact, he was of the opinion if CS&N had been sober back in their heyday, the music would have been better.

I think one other issue is that there has become almost an expectation that being a musician and heavy partying go hand in hand. Which was less true than you would think it was, but that is the legend so to speak. I just read an interview with Stewart Copeland last week, and he said 'The Police' had a very strict sobriety policy when they were on tour. They knew the demands of putting on a great show and the complexity of their music required that they be on top of their game, and that meant being sober.
 
I think a lot of it is a combo of boredom and taking the edge off/needing a pick me up and being wired in a way that requires a high level of stimulation and/or having a low threshold for stillness before it becomes intolerable.

Had a friend w/ a traveling job that had him bouncing from place to place, months on end, until landing back at home for a couple weeks of downtime.
He went pretty into drugs & alcohol during this gig and explained his experience like this:

Each new place you go to, they want to take you out for dinner and drinks....lots of drinks
You spend your life in a motel room with nothing to do other than sit around & watch TV. The boredom becomes oppressive after a long day, so you drink more
Some one at the next job site offers you a toke/bump/pill. This is way more fun than booze for killing time.
Rinse and repeat
Go home and after a day or two, boredom sets in again...what to do? Find more drugs and alcohol.

I have friends who've been touring musicians and have had similar experiences on the road. Not to mention plenty of people see drugs and alcohol as a path to increasing their creativity or breaking through slumps.
 
Had a friend w/ a traveling job that had him bouncing from place to place, months on end, until landing back at home for a couple weeks of downtime.
He went pretty into drugs & alcohol during this gig and explained his experience like this:

Each new place you go to, they want to take you out for dinner and drinks....lots of drinks
You spend your life in a motel room with nothing to do other than sit around & watch TV. The boredom becomes oppressive after a long day, so you drink more
Some one at the next job site offers you a toke/bump/pill. This is way more fun than booze for killing time.
Rinse and repeat
Go home and after a day or two, boredom sets in again...what to do? Find more drugs and alcohol.

I have friends who've been touring musicians and have had similar experiences on the road. Not to mention plenty of people see drugs and alcohol as a path to increasing their creativity or breaking through slumps.

I travel a moderate amount for work and have always struggled with boredom as a thing. Like a prompt for serious depression type thing. And left unchecked the drinks, pushing the boundaries of staying up/out late, doing riskier and riskier things, resorting to drugs, etc. is definitely a way to manage just being out of sorts and pounded by tedium.

For me boredom and creativity are inextricably linked, but if I’m bored and situated in circumstances where I don’t have time/space for positive creative outlets, I start feeling weird and doing dumb/unhelpful stuff. It’s full body psychic edginess. If my entire existence was the grind of touring and stupid press events and just mindless gladhanding and waiting around empty venues and shitting in truck stops and eating Taco Bell for every meal and sleeping on floors and living in a van. Fuck, I’d never not be high.
 
This is a long excerpt from an old interview with Keith but it's interesting.


You used hard drugs for a long time. What are the good things that came out of it-for your music, if not for your health?

I can't really say if any good things come out of it for your music or anything else. Usually drug taking in music starts off on a very, very mundane level, just keeping going to make the next gig. It starts with popping a few white crosses just to be able to stand up after driving 500 miles across the desert. And once you've accepted that-it's the old bomber command mentality: "Put 'em in the goddamn B-29s with the Lancasters and send 'em over Germany and pop 'em a few amphetamines to keep 'em alert until they get back." It's the truck driver mentality: "Do you want me to crash this sucker or do you want me to stay awake?" And once you've got past that, the next question is an escalation. Drugs are fairly innocuous. But people think they can take them without knowing anything about them, without learning what it is they do to you. If you can make a conscious decision to take some kind of crap you better damn well know what it is it's doing to you. What to take to counteract it, what's safe about it, what isn't. I've had too many good buddies go down the tube, that's the terrible thing to me. Whether I'm still here or not is fairly irrelevant compared to the number of guys I've seen go down the tube because they just didn't know what it was they were taking. They were great guys. They weren't drug-crazed loonies. They just overdid it one night or somebody slipped 'em something.

And the most boring thing about it is the people that you have to hang around with in order to get stuff. It's such a waste of time to wait five hours for the man to come with sweating people going, "Oh man, Oh man!" It's a very narrow existence and I don't think you get much out of it for your music. 'Cause while you were sitting there waiting for five hours for the man you could've written five songs. I never took any of this shit in the belief that this was gonna make my music any better. I started taking stuff in order to be able to get to the gig and actually be in a conscious state to play and do the job that I was getting paid to do. This is when most musicians get into it. Those long hauls for a few bucks with a show at the end of a few hundred miles in the back of a cramped van. That's when you take that shit. "Yeah, man, I'm gonna fall asleep onstage if I don't take something right now."

I don't think you can say that drugs ever inspired or made anybody a better musician or a better writer because in a very short time I don't care what drug you're talkin' about-you're taking it just 'cause you need it. I mean the heavy stuff. If somebody's doing a bit of reefer, so what? But I've only found it interesting when listening to music, not for performing.

The perception people have is that some of the great music on Exile on Main Street and Sticky Fingers owed its creation to your drug use.

I don't think the drugs were an important factor in any of that. I may just as well have done "Brown Sugar" or "Honky Tonk Women" or "Tumbling Dice" straight. First off, I would straighten out to go on the road 'cause the last thing you want to do is be strung out on the road lookin' for the man. I'd always straighten up for tours. It's only the periods with nothing to do that got me into dope. It was more of an adrenaline imbalance. Three or four months on the road- everything's happening, and then it's the last gig, everybody disappears and suddenly you're sitting at home and your body's still waiting for the next show. It's a very hard readjustment. You have to be an athlete out there, the show must go on, etc. That's fine, you take it, but when it all stops suddenly, your body don't know there ain't a show the next night. That was always what put me back on. Something just to calm me down so that I could just sit at home with the kids and the old lady, or my buddies. It was really to do with not working. Now, that's just personal, I can't talk for anybody else, but that was the reason I found it almost impossible to do without it and kept going back for such a long time-that stop and start. It was the easiest way I could find to calm down and relax after a tour or four months in the studio. The body is saying, "Where's the adrenaline? Where am I gonna go? Leaping out in the street?"​


The last part of that sound similar to what the Always Sunny guys were saying, albeit through a different mechanism. When the stage lights go off, then what?

Most of us 9–5 workers don’t really have that kind of dichotomy in our lives. It’s not huge ups and then big emptiness, more of a constant grind. Which I don’t think anyone particularly enjoys but if it keeps ya off drugs I guess that’s one upside.
I heard an interview years ago with a musician, wish I could remember who, but he basically said he still loves to get high, he just can’t find the time.
 
To add to what everybody else said, the people that are hanging out at shows are not doing this everyday. This might be the one time for the month to party down and they want to do it with the musicians they are there to see which means most of the time, as the musician, you aren’t paying for the drugs and booze.
 
I’m guessing it’s probably close to the same percentage as normal folks with addiction but nobody cares that Steve from accounting has s coke problem.
Until Steve does something you can't ignore anymore. That's the sad truth.
 
Kelly Deal once said "I was an addict from the first time I puffed a joint. It became a huge problem when I started touring and there was no reason not to do it all the time and I didn't have to juggle a 9-5 job." Or something to that extent.
 
Combination of several factors:

More money
More time
More access to the stuff
You don't have to get up for work in the morning on tour or the studio and it's hard to sleep after too.
 
All of these drugged up so called Rockstars should follow Jon Bon Jovi's example.

When he was bored of seeing 'another place where the faces are so cold', (which i assume means they were touring in Siberia when he wrote it) he simply made some kind of steel horse to ride about on.

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