Shooting out the Epiphone vs Gibson 339 tonight

My thoughts on it are different I guess. Now granted I hate all that "good enough" bullshit, but there are tons of companies that have stupid slogans.

I prefer to break it down into gigs. 15 gigs gets you a 2k guitar that you can have, gig with, and enjoy for the rest of your life. If you gig or just love guitars, buy the best guitar(s) you can afford, whatever it is. It may be an epi and that's cool.

I'm not defending Gibson either. I'm trying to state that proper tools cost money. Not everyone likes the same tool either. And there's always the diminishing return with anything and everything when they get up in price and performance.

You wouldn't want your doctor doing surgery with an xacto knife. :)
 
My thoughts on it are different I guess. Now granted I hate all that "good enough" bullshit, but there are tons of companies that have stupid slogans.

I prefer to break it down into gigs. 15 gigs gets you a 2k guitar that you can have, gig with, and enjoy for the rest of your life. If you gig or just love guitars, buy the best guitar(s) you can afford, whatever it is. It may be an epi and that's cool.

I'm not defending Gibson either. I'm trying to state that proper tools cost money. Not everyone likes the same tool either. And there's always the diminishing return with anything and everything when they get up in price and performance.


You wouldn't want your doctor doing surgery with an xacto knife. :)

Well said. I own a few instruments in this "over $2000" price range though. I'm not sure this 339 is the equal of any of them (for my tastes at least).
 
Plus there is not an instrument that is ready to go off the rack. Every single one needs a setup. Unfortunately a lot of opinions are formed by off the rack instruments.
 
Plus there is not an instrument that is ready to go off the rack. Every single one needs a setup. Unfortunately a lot of opinions are formed by off the rack instruments.
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Yeah. I see lots of instruments like this come through Premier and most of the new ones play pretty bad. The few LP Standards I've played have been better but none of the cheaper models have played very well.
 
And it's a hard to see how a guitar is going to sit in a band mix by an off the shelf assessment. What sounds good by itself most often turns to crap in a band situation. When I play an instrument in a shop, I don't even plug it in. It needs to be alive and complex all on its own.
 
A small amount. And most folks I know were using aftermarket pickups on nicer instruments, not trying to make cheap stuff usable.

that's how it started. but the marketplace and player demands have evolved over the past 20 years.

tele, i definitely agree with your assessment. OTOH, music is art, not surgery. it doesn't matter what the artist uses to create that art. only that the end product is something you like. guitarists who use and/or upgrade cheap gear aren't hobo proctologists. they may choose poor tools and make bad art, but there are plenty of artists using "proper tools" who make bad art too.
 
If you want to see law of diminishing return, ask in the biking thread what a $10,000 bike does that a 2,500 dollar bike doesn't. :)
 
Makes you king of Starbucks

Perfect. Reminds me exactly of this Starbucks I visited on vacation on the Newport Coast. Except there was also a gucci car show going on at the same time, so maybe one of those guys were king of Starbucks that day instead of all the other guys drinking lattes in their chamois.
 
If you want to see law of diminishing return, ask in the biking thread what a $10,000 bike does that a 2,500 dollar bike doesn't. :)

:grin:

I've enjoyed the dollar per gram of weight loss posts in bike forums for years. Most people could lose a few pounds of fat for far cheaper than doing the same for their bike. Granted, the rotating wheel mass does make a nice improvement unless the wheel becomes fr*****.
 
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