Terminator Genisys

As Hollywood sinks deeper into a morass of uncreative drivel and repeats of repeats, this is where I get off...
 
I'm sure I will see it, and I hope I enjoy it, but I am worried the whole franchise feels a little tired. The first movie was epic, the second was OK, and it has been a downhill slide since then, IMHO. I'd like to see more exploration of the dystopian future world that isn't directly connected to Arnold and John Connor. Seems one could make a dark and action packed flick just writing about a small enclave of humans fighting for survival on the periphery of the main story arc.
 
jelloman said:
As Hollywood sinks deeper into a morass of uncreative drivel and repeats of repeats, this is where I get off...
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You'd think that sooner or later someone in Hollywood would come up with a half decent idea we haven't seen before. Hard to raise money for that I suppose...
 
Dexter Inferno said:
You'd think that sooner or later someone in Hollywood would come up with a half decent idea we haven't seen before. Hard to raise money for that I suppose...
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It is possible there are some interesting and original plot elements in there and they just did a terrible job editing the trailer. But given the last two Terminator films probably not.
 
People shake their heads at Hollywood for making a Jurassic Park 19 when Jurassic Park 18 made half a billion. Of course they keep at it.

There are plenty of fantastic and original writers out there. A lot of them are working with stuff like HBO projects. Some are making independents stuff. But we don't talk about it. But we've had recent threads about Star Wars, James Bond, and The Terminator. In a few minutes, someone will post a thread about the Doctor Strange casting. Blame audiences, not artists.
 
Flamencology said:
People shake their heads at Hollywood for making a Jurassic Park 19 when Jurassic Park 18 made half a billion. Of course they keep at it.

There are plenty of fantastic and original writers out there. A lot of them are working with stuff like HBO projects. Some are making independents stuff. But we don't talk about it. But we've had recent threads about Star Wars, James Bond, and The Terminator. In a few minutes, someone will post a thread about the Doctor Strange casting. Blame audiences, not EXECUTIVES.
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There...fixed that for you...and I agree completely with it...
 
As an aside - I watched St Vincent recently and it was excellent.

Not earth shattering stuff and a bit schmaltzy (I assume the brass made them throw that in) but it was really good and not too Hollywood. Bill Murray was of course the man.
 
jelloman said:
There...fixed that for you...and I agree completely with it...
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In the 60s, audiences stopped going and executives were befuddled. So they started green-lighting shit by people like Peckinpah, Scorsese, Ashby, Bogdanovich, Spielberg, etc. Wasn't that awful?

The commercial success of lot of the generic 80s comedy 'classics' that get quoted here daily were contributing factors to executives tightening the reigns.
 
Flamencology said:
In the 60s, audiences stopped going and executives were befuddled. So they started green-lighting shit by people like Peckinpah, Scorsese, Ashby, Bogdanovich, Spielberg, etc. Wasn't that awful?

A lot of the 80s comedy classics that get quoted here daily were contributing factors to executives tightening the reigns.
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The Heaven's Gate debacle was a true turning point as well...that caused most studios to take control of the money, and thus control of much of the creative process, away from the directors...there's a documentary about it called "Final Cut" which concludes with Kris Kristofferson making the assertion that the "uncreative people" were now in charge of art...audiences have much more to say about what movies get made than artists...and most movie choices are being made by teenage girls...
 
jelloman said:
The Heaven's Gate debacle was a true turning point as well...that caused most studios to take control of the money, and thus control of much of the creative process, away from the directors...there's a documentary about it called "Final Cut" which concludes with Kris Kristofferson making the assertion that the "uncreative people" were now in charge of art...audiences have much more to say about what movies get made than artists...and most movie choices are being made by teenage girls...
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It was, but by that point, the studios had alternatives: blockbuster franchises. Star Wars, Jaws, Airplane!, Friday the 13th, etc.
 
I loved the Terminator TV series. I wish they would've continued it. ( Summer & Lena :love: )

As long as it is a well done, well written movie, I don't care if it's not an original idea.
 
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