The Endgame thread [SPOILERS]
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sunvalleylaw
Yep.
Did not read the above post. Just came to post this.
Alex W
Pork and Beans connoisseur
(SPOILERS)
I've got mixed feelings about it. I've got mixed feelings about substance abuse, poor coping skills, out of shape Thor. I didn't care for how they played out the whole Hawkeye thing. "Hey you've been on a murderous rampage for a while, but come on we really need you." I didn't care for the Black Widow and Hawkeye soulstone scene. It would have made more sense to me if it was the Hulk and Black Widow. The Steve Rogers thing at the end blew up the quantum mechanics time travel they established at the beginning.
Where the fuck was Adam Warlock? He was in the post credit Guardians scene. I really expected/hoped to see him.
I've got mixed feelings about it. I've got mixed feelings about substance abuse, poor coping skills, out of shape Thor. I didn't care for how they played out the whole Hawkeye thing. "Hey you've been on a murderous rampage for a while, but come on we really need you." I didn't care for the Black Widow and Hawkeye soulstone scene. It would have made more sense to me if it was the Hulk and Black Widow. The Steve Rogers thing at the end blew up the quantum mechanics time travel they established at the beginning.
Where the fuck was Adam Warlock? He was in the post credit Guardians scene. I really expected/hoped to see him.
sunvalleylaw
Yep.
In line. Have not read this thread.
baimun
Funkasaurus Rex
I just picture some of the Warner Brothers / DCEU executives all sitting in the theater thinking.... "mother fuckers...."
And looking at Zach Snyder and saying "SEE... you can make a movie with a hundred heroes, millions of monsters, aliens, spaceships, and explosions... and have it not be a complete fucking mess!!!!"
I think Thor's hair (and attitude) are a direct jab at Momoa's Aquaman too.
I fucking loved every minute of this movie.
Also.... if you are on my facebook feed, I basically guessed Captain America's fate to... the... letter.
And looking at Zach Snyder and saying "SEE... you can make a movie with a hundred heroes, millions of monsters, aliens, spaceships, and explosions... and have it not be a complete fucking mess!!!!"
I think Thor's hair (and attitude) are a direct jab at Momoa's Aquaman too.
I fucking loved every minute of this movie.
Also.... if you are on my facebook feed, I basically guessed Captain America's fate to... the... letter.
sunvalleylaw
Yep.
Ok, I saw it last night, and will again with my daughter. I enjoyed it, and as with all these movies when there is an ensemble of heroes, I have to re-watch as there is too much going on for me to catch everything.
And though I enjoyed it, I am a little mixed. Movies/books that wrap up the story are always slightly unsatisfying to me. I don't know why. Sometimes it just feels too neat. (Chronicles of Narnia books, Return of the Jedi, for example). Yeah, there are some sad losses, and though I like those characters and will miss their movies if they were going to make any more (especially black widow. I wish there was more black widow movies being planned), it felt like they put the losses in there cuz they felt hey had to, rather than as something more integral to a story. But maybe I will consider the Hawkeye/Black Widow redemption stories again. I did like that part. Makes me wonder if Black Widow didn't want to have the survivor's guilt. Hawkeye may need a little counseling.
Anyway, will see again.
And though I enjoyed it, I am a little mixed. Movies/books that wrap up the story are always slightly unsatisfying to me. I don't know why. Sometimes it just feels too neat. (Chronicles of Narnia books, Return of the Jedi, for example). Yeah, there are some sad losses, and though I like those characters and will miss their movies if they were going to make any more (especially black widow. I wish there was more black widow movies being planned), it felt like they put the losses in there cuz they felt hey had to, rather than as something more integral to a story. But maybe I will consider the Hawkeye/Black Widow redemption stories again. I did like that part. Makes me wonder if Black Widow didn't want to have the survivor's guilt. Hawkeye may need a little counseling.
Anyway, will see again.
Saw it this morning. So many people at a movie theater at 7 a.m.! And all lining up to buy giant sodas. Don't know how they manage to make it though a 3-hour movie like that. I deliberately avoided drinking anything this morning, and barely made it to the end credits.
Anyhow, loved the movie. I think I reached max geek level (tears in my eyes and everything) when Captain America wielded Mjolnir.
I don't know if I'll see it again in the theater though. The movie had plot holes you could drive a truck through, and I don't really want to over-analyze the thing. Time travel movies do not stand up well to scrutiny.
(The random kid standing at the back at the funeral confused me, though. I just looked it up, and it turns out he was the kid in Iron Man 3.)
Anyhow, loved the movie. I think I reached max geek level (tears in my eyes and everything) when Captain America wielded Mjolnir.
I don't know if I'll see it again in the theater though. The movie had plot holes you could drive a truck through, and I don't really want to over-analyze the thing. Time travel movies do not stand up well to scrutiny.
(The random kid standing at the back at the funeral confused me, though. I just looked it up, and it turns out he was the kid in Iron Man 3.)
sunvalleylaw
Yep.
I am going to go again and take my daughter this afternoon. I can ignore plot holes in comic book movies, and after reading and thinking a bit, I am deciding I enjoyed it.
Aahzz
Habanero Evangelist
Yup. The fact that there are superheroes has already pulled it out of reality, I can handle plot holes in my fantasy worlds. It's big fun, and this one managed to balance good laughs with some gut punches.
I either disagree or I'm misunderstanding your point.
I was bothered on numerous occasions how eradicating half of all life equaled 95% of life disappearing. Professional sports are unsustainable with a US population of 160 million? Don't tell the 1950s. Was Thanos bad at math?
Alex W
Pork and Beans connoisseur
Without getting too deep in my limited understanding of quantum mechanics, going back in the past can't alter your present. That's why killing baby Thanos wouldn't work. All you do is create an alternate timeline. Infinite number of realities in which every possible outcome has(is) played out. Rogers going back in time creates a different timeline just like when Nebula brought Thanos into our timeline it created a Timeline where Thanos never collected the infinity stones because that Thanos died in our timeline before he could collect them in his own. That's why Nebula killing past Nebula isn't a paradox. That's why two of the same character in the same timeline isn't a paradox. Rogers wouldn't have been in the same timeline after he left unless that was a different Rogers on the bench.
Flamencology
You don't deserve koa.
Just saw it.
Feels a bit surreal. My wife and I went to see the first Iron Man movie back when our first child was still only about 18 months old. Tonight was the first time in years where my wife and I have gone to see a Marvel movie without any of our kids because they all wanted to go with friends, all of them old enough to be able to go to the movies without any parents.
Anyway, it was kind of a given that there would be some clearing house, given the size of this project, given the stakes of the previous film, and because these actors can’t keep playing these roles in perpetuity. Not even if they wanted to and even if boredom or tiredness weren’t issues. So it’s pretty natural that those who are gone are those who’ve been there the longest and who have had their character arcs exhausted.
That said, I’m a bit annoyed at Black Widow, since there is plenty more that could have been done with that character. And I’m a little annoyed with how Cap was forced into that box of ‘one true love’ — would have been interesting to see him having a love life, which was hinted at in Winter Soldier. But within that box, there wasn’t much more for him to do. And Iron Man had absolutely nowhere else to go.
And it became more and more obvious that these characters were going when the movie got all retrospective and did the Back to the Future Part II thing, having scenes from the previous movies placed inside the new movie.
Feels a bit surreal. My wife and I went to see the first Iron Man movie back when our first child was still only about 18 months old. Tonight was the first time in years where my wife and I have gone to see a Marvel movie without any of our kids because they all wanted to go with friends, all of them old enough to be able to go to the movies without any parents.
Anyway, it was kind of a given that there would be some clearing house, given the size of this project, given the stakes of the previous film, and because these actors can’t keep playing these roles in perpetuity. Not even if they wanted to and even if boredom or tiredness weren’t issues. So it’s pretty natural that those who are gone are those who’ve been there the longest and who have had their character arcs exhausted.
That said, I’m a bit annoyed at Black Widow, since there is plenty more that could have been done with that character. And I’m a little annoyed with how Cap was forced into that box of ‘one true love’ — would have been interesting to see him having a love life, which was hinted at in Winter Soldier. But within that box, there wasn’t much more for him to do. And Iron Man had absolutely nowhere else to go.
And it became more and more obvious that these characters were going when the movie got all retrospective and did the Back to the Future Part II thing, having scenes from the previous movies placed inside the new movie.
It didn't alter his present, he went into the past, lived his life, and returned to his original timeline shortly after he caught up.
baimun
Funkasaurus Rex
I saw it for a second time in IMAX on Sunday.
I think the first time I was just so overwhelmed with so much going on with so many characters I truly love.... on the second viewing, all of the Tony moments with his daughter, and with his dad.... totally choked up and tears welling in the eyes.
The Cap scenes in the third act.... I don't know if my heart will ever recover. AVENGERS............ Assemble. BOOM.
I haven't felt this way since being a little kid and seeing Star Wars in the theatre.
I think the first time I was just so overwhelmed with so much going on with so many characters I truly love.... on the second viewing, all of the Tony moments with his daughter, and with his dad.... totally choked up and tears welling in the eyes.
The Cap scenes in the third act.... I don't know if my heart will ever recover. AVENGERS............ Assemble. BOOM.
I haven't felt this way since being a little kid and seeing Star Wars in the theatre.