WTF: Another Shooting Spree

just got a complaint about political content in this thread...I'm a little busy this morning (I'm not even going back and reading the thread because I've gotta get in the car right now) so please keep in within the rules guys or I'll shut the thread down.
 
"Spree" is such a happy word -- spreeeeeeeeee! -- but when you do a news search for it all you get are reports of shootings.

Such is the state of the country today.
 
Wow

And I didn't even notice that a political party was mentioned. Only the NRA. But I guess we know how that goes, so just drop that one guys.
 
Where's that ball gag smilie? I need one for myself (not in response to any poster here, just at this fucking ridiculous situation in the US that we absolutely refuse to address). Until then, I'll just go with :ksmash:
 
Violence portrayed with such a casual nature in music, TV and movies, coupled with an over-medicated populace, and you wind up with people looking for a way to make some violence of their own.

This country is going down a dead-end road.
 
Violence portrayed with such a casual nature in music, TV and movies, coupled with an over-medicated populace, and you wind up with people looking for a way to make some violence of their own.

Bullshit. I grew up watching horror movies, playing violent video games, and listening to heavy metal. One of my favourite TV shows is about a gun-running motorcycle that participates in an orgy of sex and violence. But I don't own a gun, don't entertain thoughts of hurting others, and have no desire to live out anything I watch on TV (except for maybe some more sex...) Fantasy is fantasy and the issue is that some people either can't perceive that (mental issues) or choose NOT to make a distinction (sociopaths.)
 
I can explain it easily without resorting to politicizing it...

For the past 50 or so years, we've been telling every child that they are special, when the cold hard reality is that they're not. We're not. You're not. There's billions of us, with many more to come. But, "You're SPECIAL!" to every child can sometimes seed unconscious expectations that can cause feelings of inadequacy and isolation. In order to fill that void -- that lack of attention that that person feels entitled to thanks to years of conditioning that he/she is supposed to be SPECIAL instead of garden-variety faceless drone, some will act out in increasingly explosive manners -- to finally be SPECIAL.

You can take all of the guns in the world away, these people will find a way to do it -- improvised weapons, IED's, poisoning the water supply, etc.
 
Here are your "revolutionaries".

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Part of becoming special is to be recognized.
You have to get caught and/or "go down in a blaze of glory".
 
Blaming movies, video games, telling kids they are special, and anything else you come up with is an easy out for tough questions. We need society to stop seeing violence as an answer to all problems; one way to start is to actually have dialogue that doesn't involve name-calling, demonization of others, and includes respect and empathy.
 
Bullshit. I grew up watching horror movies, playing violent video games, and listening to heavy metal. One of my favourite TV shows is about a gun-running motorcycle that participates in an orgy of sex and violence. But I don't own a gun, don't entertain thoughts of hurting others, and have no desire to live out anything I watch on TV (except for maybe some more sex...) Fantasy is fantasy and the issue is that some people either can't perceive that (mental issues) or choose NOT to make a distinction (sociopaths.)

Yeah. That's why I added "coupled with an over-medicated populace" in there. I never said that anyone would grab a gun and start shooting, solely because he was playing on his X-Box. Fantasy can become reality when someone's abusing drugs, be it prescribed by a doctor of off the street. And even then, many can make the distinction.

I knew better than to post in this thread and did it anyway. My bad.
 
Blaming movies, video games, telling kids they are special, and anything else you come up with is an easy out for tough questions. We need society to stop seeing violence as an answer to all problems; one way to start is to actually have dialogue that doesn't involve name-calling, demonization of others, and includes respect and empathy.

Fucking hippies. Why don't we all just go hold hands and sing "Aquarius!" :rolleyes:








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Has anyone ever made a case that mass shooters are over medicated? This is the first I've heard of it.

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I'm not going to politicize this, because it goes far beyond politics to me.

When I was a 13 year old kid, I walked into a hospital emergency room where my 22 year old sister lay dead on a blood soaked gurney above a puddle of her own blood. Remnants of the feeble life saving efforts still attached. Her massive wounds visible beneath the sheet.

She was dead because a "good guy with a gun" tried, and failed to be a hero. Her only crime was getting out of bed and going to work that day.

If you want to curb gun violence, you don't stop reporting on it. You report the reality of it. Let a generation of kids be exposed to autopsy photos of 6 year olds that caught a .223 or 562 round or two... or ten.

Or those of someone like Leslie, who wound up on the wrong end of a shotgun at close range.

Splash these photos across all media until people have seen enough.

No, I am not anti-gun.

But, I am very much against the censorship of what gun violence looks like.

Maybe if more people could picture for themselves what a loved one looks like after falling victim to gun violence, they would be less likely to resort to it.

There will always be psychos out there that can't be stopped. No law will change that.

Fuck it, sorry guys. I have nothing else.

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Sorry to hear about your sister, absolutely horrible.

While it's an interesting idea I don't think overexposure to the visual aspect of it will change anything about people who are willing to perpetrate such violence. If anything it might further desensitize people.

It might've worked a bit during the Vietnam era, but the world has adapted.
 
Has anyone ever made a case that mass shooters are over medicated? This is the first I've heard of it.

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Not really. Often the persons committing these offenses are mentally ill, but are not taking any medications. Over medication is a trendy form of condescension these days.
 
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