The New Taylor Swift Record

jrockbridge said:
I’m going to go out on a limb here and say that I’m pretty sure Travis does NOT have a micro penis.

“Forgive me, it sounds cocky
He (ah!) matized me
And opened my eyes
Redwood tree
It ain't hard to see
His love was the key
That opened my thighs”
-TS
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Oh boy, lol. I bet her Dad wishes she was still writing weepy songs about ex-boyfriends. :lol: :lol::lol:
 
Frank Prince said:
Oh boy, lol. I bet her Dad wishes she was still writing weepy songs about ex-boyfriends. :lol: :lol::lol:
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Well, she's an adult now and engaged to a star football player. So she may well graduate to weepy songs about ex-husbands. OTOH, maybe this celebrity relationship will last the test of time. :shrug:
 
Well, apparently this thread, and related items have triggered The Algorithm to believe I'm interested in Taylor Swift. The only time I hear her music in when it's played in public, so I'm not familiar with her unpopular stuff. Anyway, this popped up for me today. Seems relatable to what many have echoed in this thread.

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Is this the beginning of the end for Taylor? All pop stars have a limited shelf life. Hers has lasted for several years so far.
 
Peen Simmons said:
Swifties are not critics and I don’t trust their opinions on the matter. Same with how I don’t trust when dudes here tell me Dave Grohl has still got it or Jason Isbell isn’t phoning it in when he’s writing stuff like this…



Swifties (and most weird mega fandoms) are cults. They’re a source of fervor and not truth.
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He seems to have given his Ex plenty of material for her new album
 
Yesterday at work we were talking about music in general and a few of my co-workers, who are current or former swifties, were talking about her and this new album. There was a real feeling of betrayal.

Seems that in their opinion she's no longer the person they presumed she was and her music no longer connects with them or has any sense of authenticity.
 
shoeless said:
Well, apparently this thread, and related items have triggered The Algorithm to believe I'm interested in Taylor Swift. The only time I hear her music in when it's played in public, so I'm not familiar with her unpopular stuff. Anyway, this popped up for me today. Seems relatable to what many have echoed in this thread.

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Is this the beginning of the end for Taylor? All pop stars have a limited shelf life. Hers has lasted for several years so far.
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People often grow out of music, or artists, they once liked. Perhaps, some Swifties are maturing faster than Taylor herself. Swift's lyrics do not seem to reflect the maturity of a 35 year old woman. The latest album has alienated certain fans, garnered a fair amount of criticism, all while setting records for sales. It's quite a magic trick.
 
jrockbridge said:
Swift's lyrics do not seem to reflect the maturity of a 35 year old woman.
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I think that’s because Swift is selling a fantasy. Her fans are now grown women dreaming their teenage dreams the same way some men still dream of the girl next door when they’re in their fifties. Swift’s songs give them a way to vicariously live out those dreams. If Taylor settles down and has kids and starts writing songs about that her albums probably won’t sell as well. But maybe she can find something else to pivot to; Madonna has now passed through every stage of a woman’s life, found new things to write about, and she’s still racking up hits on the dance charts.
 
jp_nyc said:
I think that’s because Swift is selling a fantasy. Her fans are now grown women dreaming their teenage dreams the same way some men still dream of the girl next door when they’re in their fifties. Swift’s songs give them a way to vicariously live out those dreams. If Taylor settles down and has kids and starts writing songs about that her albums probably won’t sell as well. But maybe she can find something else to pivot to; Madonna has now passed through every stage of a woman’s life, found new things to write about, and she’s still racking up hits on the dance charts.
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Honestly, she found the escape hatch with Folklore/Evermore—character songs, fictional writing, world building. And even her best pre-folklore stuff like 1989 and Red existed in a heightened reality—a kind of expanded technicolor semi-autobiographical state. The best songs on Lover (Cruel Summer, The Archer) are less about specific Taylor-shaped experiences.

I think the big cul-de-sac Swift is stuck in is the grievance-based persona. What works for a skinny supposedly dorky eternally teenaged character really doesn’t fly for a billionaire who is one of the most famous humans on earth who spent a full year on a world-stomping victory lap.

Her persona is at odds with the work/text. And the work/text is lazy. Our girl styles herself as “the English teacher” but she clearly hasn’t read a book since the 12th grade. Which is fine, she’s rich and famous. But she’s not growing as an artist AND she desperately wants to be loved for giving minimal effort. She should probably take a couple years off and come back with some new tricks. A lot of artists without a process and without a great ability to make something out of nothing run out of steam in their mid-thirties.
 
Peen Simmons said:
Honestly, she found the escape hatch with Folklore/Evermore—character songs, fictional writing, world building. And even her best pre-folklore stuff like 1989 and Red existed in a heightened reality—a kind of expanded technicolor semi-autobiographical state. The best songs on Lover (Cruel Summer, The Archer) are less about specific Taylor-shaped experiences.

I think the big cul-de-sac Swift is stuck in is the grievance-based persona. What works for a skinny supposedly dorky eternally teenaged character really doesn’t fly for a billionaire who is one of the most famous humans on earth who spent a full year on a world-stomping victory lap.

Her persona is at odds with the work/text. And the work/text is lazy. Our girl styles herself as “the English teacher” but she clearly hasn’t read a book since the 12th grade. Which is fine, she’s rich and famous. But she’s not growing as an artist AND she desperately wants to be loved for giving minimal effort. She should probably take a couple years off and come back with some new tricks. A lot of artists without a process and without a great ability to make something out of nothing run out of steam in their mid-thirties.
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As Ive previously stated I know squat about her music, but this seems about right.
 
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